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Post by James Wrighy on Feb 2, 2019 1:42:09 GMT
Hello,
I'm having some issues with the flight model. I don't think it is working as intended for me.
The issue is that the aircraft wants to self level. As soon as I release the controls the cabri will rapidly self level... It is almost like the stick sets the bank angle. If flies a bit like a drone.
I have checked to see if it is the autopilot and it is not that. I can't seem to get it to fly like it should.
Kind regards,
James
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Post by VSL-Admin on Feb 2, 2019 2:39:23 GMT
Hello, I'm having some issues with the flight model. I don't think it is working as intended for me. The issue is that the aircraft wants to self level. As soon as I release the controls the cabri will rapidly self level... It is almost like the stick sets the bank angle. If flies a bit like a drone. I have checked to see if it is the autopilot and it is not that. I can't seem to get it to fly like it should. Kind regards, James Hi James  Please try to check and see if your X-Plane is set to 100% realism in the Joystick setting menu. Let me know if you are still having issues. If you can send in your log.txt file it would be great. I will be able to go deeper. Thanks! JMH |
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Post by James Wright on Feb 2, 2019 15:01:08 GMT
Hello, The stability augmentation is set to 0 percent and the controls are set to 100% linear. Here is my log file: Log.txt
According to the prompt, the Cabri is up to date. Kind Regards, James |
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Post by VSL-Admin on Feb 2, 2019 21:18:05 GMT
Hi James,
Got it.
I will review this and will get back to you in this topic within the next 12 hours.
Thanks!
JMH - VSKYLABS
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Post by VSL-Admin on Feb 3, 2019 17:06:46 GMT
Hello, The stability augmentation is set to 0 percent and the controls are set to 100% linear. Here is my log file: Log.txt
According to the prompt, the Cabri is up to date. Kind Regards, James Hi James, Please try the newly released update v1.31 (released today, via the autoupdater). It should be fixed, among other X-Plane 11.31 related issues. |
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Post by James Wright on Feb 3, 2019 21:44:37 GMT
Hello!
It is working perfectly now!
I've just brought the mini 500 and it has the same issue, unfortunately.
Thanks!
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Post by James Wright on Feb 3, 2019 21:51:59 GMT
Hello! It is working perfectly now! I've just brought the mini 500 and it has the same issue, unfortunately. Thanks! Bought* |
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Post by VSL-Admin on Feb 4, 2019 0:13:43 GMT
Hello! It is working perfectly now! I've just brought the mini 500 and it has the same issue, unfortunately. Thanks! Hi there The VSKYLABS Cabri G2 is having an inherent stability system as part of the flight dynamics engineering (not in real life, but in X-Plane), which is used to help defining it's flight handling characteristics with several wanted nuances. This "feature" is under constant evaluation, and indeed was part of the ongoing tune-up process of the project, which is gradually being matured by itself, and constantly being adjusted following X-Plane's development progress (this is a reality that X-Plane aircraft developers are forced to live with...as it is constantly evolving...). So in this case, your input was familiar. On the other hand, the VSKYLABS Mini-500 is having a completely "loosen" or should I say "natural" flight dynamics engineering in X-Plane. So basically, it simply can't induce issues such as self-leveling etc. Please note that when switching between these two, you will need to check/uncheck the experimental flight model mode in X-Plane, and reload the aircraft. In this case, it should probably be a local issue...but still, let me know if you are still having this... Thanks! |
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Post by delite26 on Feb 4, 2019 18:45:46 GMT
Hello, (and sorry for my english)
have the Cabri G2 for several weeks on X-Plane 11th
Last week I flew the Cabri G2 real.
I was very surprised how agile and nervous the real helicopter is over X-Plane 11.
Mainly feel:
1. When operating the Collektiv is to compensate immediately on the pedals otherwise the helicopter turns immediately.
The Collektiv is very sensitive.
2. The helicopter drifts much faster and requires much more work on the stick. The movements rock clearly.
3. The difference between pedaling on the left or right is much more different than in the X-plane. (With the same operation, the helicopter turns much faster to the left than to the right).
I think your Cabri G2 really great.
Is there a way to bring the model closer to reality? Are these deviations on the model or on X-Plane? Can I use Plane Maker to change settings that make the helicopter more agile? What settings are these. I've already set all Stability Aids to zero% in X-Plane.
Many Thanks
Andreas
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Post by VSL-Admin on Feb 4, 2019 18:55:57 GMT
Hi there Ok...first of all, real flying vehicles (helicopters and airplanes" are much more fluent than a flight simulator, even as good as X-Plane. As for the VSL G2, yesterday a new update was released, and the "agility" aspect was tuned. So first, make sure that you are using the latest version (it was updated automatically via the autoupdater). The current "agility level" is almost maxed out (un aided). This will gradually get updated during the next few weeks, as planned. The flight model refinement is a long process. I highly recommend not to modify the internal flight dynamics variables in plane maker, as it may cause to unwanted effect throughout the flying experience. I hope that this reply was helpful BTW Your English is great!  |
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Post by delite26 on Feb 4, 2019 21:21:18 GMT
Thank you for the short-term answer. Update is loaded. Will test it and hope for much more agility in future updates. Many Thanks.
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Post by VSL-Admin on Feb 5, 2019 15:59:48 GMT
Thank you for the short-term answer. Update is loaded. Will test it and hope for much more agility in future updates. Many Thanks. Thank you for reaching out! Let me know if the last update felt different! |
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Post by delite26 on Feb 9, 2019 17:13:12 GMT
Hi, flew the convertible twice after the update.
The helicopter is now more agile around the roll and pitch axis. This is not yet the reality, but in any case an improvement. In reality the helicopter is much less stable and has to be adjusted much more via the stick.
In my opinion the connection between colectiv and pedals is not sensitive enough. For very light movements on the colective, the pedals have to be adjusted immediately. Also the yaw to the left is clearly more pronounced than to the right. In addition, due to the clockwise rotating rotor, the right pedal has to be flown much more.
Do not misunderstand. I am really enthusiastic about the helicopter and just try to share my impressions of the real Cabri. Thank you very much.
One more question, the X-Plane always says that new data has been updated and the model has to be reloaded. The message remains even if I execute "reload model" via the developer menu. Is the error x-plane? The acf-file is up-to-date.
Many greetings
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Post by VSL-Admin on Feb 9, 2019 18:18:07 GMT
Hi, flew the convertible twice after the update. The helicopter is now more agile around the roll and pitch axis. This is not yet the reality, but in any case an improvement. In reality the helicopter is much less stable and has to be adjusted much more via the stick. In my opinion the connection between colectiv and pedals is not sensitive enough. For very light movements on the colective, the pedals have to be adjusted immediately. Also the yaw to the left is clearly more pronounced than to the right. In addition, due to the clockwise rotating rotor, the right pedal has to be flown much more. Do not misunderstand. I am really enthusiastic about the helicopter and just try to share my impressions of the real Cabri. Thank you very much. One more question, the X-Plane always says that new data has been updated and the model has to be reloaded. The message remains even if I execute "reload model" via the developer menu. Is the error x-plane? The acf-file is up-to-date. Many greetings Hi OK...things are indeed going a bit weird since X-Plane was updated to 11.31. Here is a cut/paste post from the VSKYLABS Facebook page (posted minutes ago): IMPORTANT NOTICE:
The VSKYLABS Guimbal Cabri G2 and the VSKYLABS Test-Pilot: Mini-500 projects will be updated SOON!!! NOTICE INFORMATION:
X-Plane 11.30, 11.31 and X-Plane 11.32 (PUBLIC BETA) have demonstrated some flight dynamics differences related to helicopter-performance. Because X-Plane 11.31 was officially released as a "stable version", last week's updates for these VSL helicopter projects were released, to allow reasonable operations within X-Plane 11.31 *public-released version*. These projects were thoroughly tested in the new public beta X-Plane 11.32 and as it seems, with the next "stable version" of X-Plane 11 release, which is expected to happen soon, a complementary updates will be released, almost instantly. So...if you are using X-Plane 11.32 (PUBLIC BETA) version, you may experience some non-familiar issues with the handling of the helicopters. It is known (and practically addressed already) and will be solved, as explained above, with immediate update releases when X-Plane 11.32 becomes "stable". ******* Regarding the autoupdate process, it should show that the project was updated to v1.32 (you can check it in the settings.txt file within the aircraft directory). If you are still having issues with this, try to disable/enable the plugin from the plugins menu in X-Plane. If you are still having issues with it, let me know! Thanks! JMH |
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