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shade4e
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Maybe it will come back May 14, 2020 21:51:52 GMT

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Post by shade4e on May 14, 2020 21:51:52 GMT

New to VSL forum. Flt Sim user since C64 days. Been with X-Plane about 6 months from long time FS2004/FSX user. Both are still on my PC. No comparison to XP-11

Just got the R66 and thus far really like it. Never took to helos in the MicroSoft sims as they never flew correctly to me. Back in the mid 60's I was a RW

helo pilot with USN. Flew Kaman H2s for SAR in SE Asia war games and Boeing H-46s for Vert Rep in SE Asia. Last time I piloted a real helo was in Oct 1969.

My favorite XP aircraft is the C-47/DC-3. Have VSLs and another brand. Belong to DC3Airways with almost 900 DC-3/C47 hrs logged with them, nearly all with FS2004 & FSX.

Spent several hours today with the VSL R66. All over the sky (and ground) at first. Slowly - very slowly starting to come back. I did try electric RC helos which turned out a

complete failure for me. Using a Saitec joystick at the moment. Use one throttle for collective, the other for throttle, twist grip not used as I have pedals.

Bound and determined to learn to fly this thing. I know IRW it takes time to learn to fly a real one. Feel the flight modeling in XP is good on the helos I've tried so that is encouraging.

Repair shop should have my R66 rebuilt by now so heading back to the flight line to give it another go.

BTW I'm currently using the R66 in XP11.50b6, experimental settings with all joystick calibrations set to zero. It works great as far as I can see, for one who just started flying the R66.

Have read other heli forums some folks cut/remove the centering spring on their joystick. Any of you done that?

Looking fwd to this and hope activity picks up on the VSL forum.

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Maybe it will come back May 15, 2020 9:27:17 GMT

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Post by VSL-Admin on May 15, 2020 9:27:17 GMT

May 14, 2020 21:51:52 GMT shade4e said:

New to VSL forum. Flt Sim user since C64 days. Been with X-Plane about 6 months from long time FS2004/FSX user. Both are still on my PC. No comparison to XP-11

Just got the R66 and thus far really like it. Never took to helos in the MicroSoft sims as they never flew correctly to me. Back in the mid 60's I was a RW

helo pilot with USN. Flew Kaman H2s for SAR in SE Asia war games and Boeing H-46s for Vert Rep in SE Asia. Last time I piloted a real helo was in Oct 1969.

My favorite XP aircraft is the C-47/DC-3. Have VSLs and another brand. Belong to DC3Airways with almost 900 DC-3/C47 hrs logged with them, nearly all with FS2004 & FSX.

Spent several hours today with the VSL R66. All over the sky (and ground) at first. Slowly - very slowly starting to come back. I did try electric RC helos which turned out a

complete failure for me. Using a Saitec joystick at the moment. Use one throttle for collective, the other for throttle, twist grip not used as I have pedals.

Bound and determined to learn to fly this thing. I know IRW it takes time to learn to fly a real one. Feel the flight modeling in XP is good on the helos I've tried so that is encouraging.

Repair shop should have my R66 rebuilt by now so heading back to the flight line to give it another go.

BTW I'm currently using the R66 in XP11.50b6, experimental settings with all joystick calibrations set to zero. It works great as far as I can see, for one who just started flying the R66.

Have read other heli forums some folks cut/remove the centering spring on their joystick. Any of you done that?

Looking fwd to this and hope activity picks up on the VSL forum.

Hi there!

Nice meeting you and thank you for sharing!

Removing the centering spring from a conventional joystick is allowing precise, continuous inputs to the cyclic, without "fighting" the spring forces. It does magic.

In some joystick types there is no need to completely remove the spring. You can use a few zip-ties on the spring, so it would get *short* up to your desired feel. This can easily implemented and removed without the need to physically modding the joystick.

Activity on the VSL forum...this forum (The VSKYLABS Support forum) is a kind of a secondary support forum. The main VSKYLABS support forum is at the X-Plane.org, where there are thousands of posts and interactions. But both forums are active and users can choose their preferred platform.

Thanks again for reaching out and sharing your experience!

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shade4e
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Maybe it will come back May 15, 2020 22:54:44 GMT

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Post by shade4e on May 15, 2020 22:54:44 GMT

JMH,
Thank you for the zip tie idea. Really works for me AND spring tension is now adjustable. I do have to fine tune a bit. With nearly all tension off collective and sensitivity set at “0” the helicopter becomes really twitchy. More practice will find the correct tension for me.

Thanks again for the great suggestion.

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Maybe it will come back May 16, 2020 0:53:37 GMT

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Post by VSL-Admin on May 16, 2020 0:53:37 GMT

May 15, 2020 22:54:44 GMT shade4e said:

JMH,
Thank you for the zip tie idea. Really works for me AND spring tension is now adjustable. I do have to fine tune a bit. With nearly all tension off collective and sensitivity set at “0” the helicopter becomes really twitchy. More practice will find the correct tension for me.

Thanks again for the great suggestion.

You're welcome!

WWW.VSKYLABS.COM